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Virtual-IMAGE-N-eering™: Transforming "Physical-images" as Sustainable "Virtual-Images™. In honor of Walt Disney, who coined the term "Imagineering".

Sustainable-LIFE™ Home-Movies™ Library™

Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™ System™ Components:
For 8mm 16mm Film Transfer Clients

Film-to-Video Onwer

Virtually-For-EVER Home-Movies™ Library™ Drives™
Contain Virtual Files
from your 8mm/16mm Film Virtualization

  • Virtually-For-EVER Master-Files™ For HDTV
  • Primal-Capture™ Master-Files™
  • Disc-IMAGES™ for DVD (ISO) files (see side bar)
  • Disc-IMAGES™ for Blu-ray Files
  • Social-Media™ Files
  • Compatible with MS Windows and Apple OSX

Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™
With On-board Archive Management Tools" Includes::

  • On-board Tutorial
  • On-board Media Player
  • On-board Strategic Video Archive Plan

Your "Archive Management Tools" stay

    • WITH the Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™
    • WITH your video files and disc-IMAGES™ files
    • WHERE they belong
    • When YOU need them!
    • Loading (booting) from your "Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™

Most Important:

  • Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™
    • ITSELF
      • Copying the entire archive drive to "The Cloud",
      • Makes YOUR archive drive -- itself -- "virtual"!

  • You can duplicate
    • Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™
      • To as many technologies as exist
      • SSD, HDD, Flash Drives, Memory Cards, and "The Cloud" -- AND
      • To as many technologies THAT WILL EVER BE INVENTED!
      • Virtual-Home-Movies™!

    • Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™
    • Duplicate it
    • As many times
    • AS YOU NEED and
    • As many times
    • Virtually-For-EVERYONE™!
    • Virtual-Home-Movies™!


Film-to-Video Onwer

Home-Movies-N-a-Flash™ Drive

Made FROM your Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™

  • Device-FREE™ Virtual-DVDS™:
  • Social-Media files
  • On-board Media Player
  • On-board Tutorial
  • On-board Strategic Video Archive Plan
  • Virtually-For-EVERYONE!
Device-FREE™ Disc-IMAGES™
  • Device-FREE™ Virtual-DVDS™
  • Device-FREE™ Blu-Ray Disc-IMAGES™
    • for burning a life-time of Physical DVD Discs
    • for playing on the On-board Media Player
    • for copying onto any device or computer
    • for copying upto the Internet Cloud
    • Virtual-Home-Movies™!

"Old-Fashioned" Physical Discs

  • DVD Discs- Usually 6 complet sets
  • Blu-ray Discs - Usually 1 complet set

Dual-Pass Rendered from
Virtually-For-EVER Master-Files™ For HDTV

We keep your DVDs™ and Blu-rays
inexpressive but NEVER CHEAP!

  • A Film-Transfer™: Temporarily re-embodying (capturing) an image - FROM one physical medium ONTO another physical medium; A kind of Image-Reincarnation™ (without any religious connotation). Image-life is tied to media-longevity OR media-player-longevity OR technology shifts (i.e., decline of an industry -- like music CD Discs and book stores).

  • A Film Virtualization™: To give moving images Virtually-For-EVER™ -- as in the creation of a Virtual-DVD (i.e., as a Disc-FREE™ Device-FREE™ DVD -- needing no physical disc -- to exist; and needing no physical disc player -- to play) and thus freedom of cloning and physical replication to ANY device or medium -- forever.

  • Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™: An archive to store, retrieve, view, duplicate and "burn" Virtual-Movies™ -- with the archive itself being in a Virtual-State™ (independent of any one Physical-Device or any one Physical-Medium); With on-board tutorial and media-player and archive plan. Engineered with many funtions -- but DESIGNED FOR ONLY ONE PURPOSE: Virtually-For-EVER™ thru cheap and easy replication.

    Example: Cloning the Virtual-DVD to a Virtual-Cloud-DVD; Replicating teh Virtal-DVD as a Solid-State-DVD -- and, yes, as a DVD disc, that we all love and know how to use.

  • The Answer is Now a Question: Virtually-For-EVER™ for your Family's Images is no longer a question; but a decision.
    To transend; or to transfer;
    To be; or NOT to be;
    That is the quesiton.

  • Call me for help with The Answer.

National Archives Guidelines (Ban) on DVD discs:

Source-Link: US National Archives & Records Administration (also called NARA)
  • "CDs and DVDs are not an archival storage medium.
    Do not rely on them to store permanent records."

  • "Recordable" DVD discs and CD disc have a life span of 2 to 5 years."

PLEASE: "Burn this" -- into your brain! Before BURNING priceless data and images to another DVD! No matter what color it is!

PROBLEM: Like most people, you may have been deceived into thinking DVD discs were an "archive medium" -- you could trust. Wrong! They NEVER were! Even the "gold" DVDS. DVD Manufactures do NOT warranty "data" -- only "shelf life" -- of UNBURNED DVDS!

If you need proof, read How Pigs Fly and DVD Longevity Soars!

Also, Archive Gold type DVDs; the New Fool's Gold?

Yes, we all love DVDs, but they ARE VERY BAD FOR ARCHIVING! So get over it -- and move on to the real issue!

PROBLEM: The real issue is, your Home Movie IMAGES™ are now imprisoned (captured) and dying -- embodied in your old deteriorating, archaic Movie film and Video Tape and/or (as you may have just learned) your Expiring-DVDs™.

PROBLEM: A film or tape "transfer" ONLY Re-Imprisons™ a "down-graded" version of your Home-Movie™ IMAGES™ -- onto another physical medium "death trap", like DVDs. Its a "catch 22", Darned if you do transfer to DVD; Darned if you don't -- until now.

PROBLEM: Copying one DVD to another DVD gives the NEW DVD a shorter life than the old DVD, due to the compounded "recording errors" -- which was the "research problem" addressed by the NTSC/Library of Congress Optical Disc Longevity Study. (The bottom-line was, they BANNED DVDs for archive purposes!)

Solution: A Virtual-DVD™
Just Another Virtualized-IMAGE™
in The Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™

  • A "Digital-State™" Disc-IMAGE™
  • Transforms™ your 8mm 16mm Movie Films
  • Dual-Pass Rendered from a
  • Virtually-For-EVER Master-File for HDTV and
  • Protected by Copyright Law as
  • YOUR Priceless Copyright Asset
  • Needing no Physical Disc or Physical Disc Player
  • FREE of DVD Recorder "recording errors"
  • FREE to Burn Unlimited Physical DVD discs
  • FREE to Replicate Unlimited Solid-State DVDs™ (SSDVD™)
  • FREE to Cloud-Clone™ for Unlimited Cloud-Downloading™

All for ROUGHLY the SAME PRICE other companies charge

  • For just a DVD.

Virtually-For-EVER DVD is

  • Just one By-Product, among several By-Products,
  • MADE FROM your all important Virtualized™ Virtually-For-EVER™ Master-Files.
  • They are ALL INCLUDED with your ...

Virtually-For-EVER™ Home-Movie™ Library™

Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™ Drives™ are custom loaded (as ordered) with...

  • Device-FREE™ Disc-IMAGES™ for DVD
  • Device-FREE™ Disc-IMAGES™ for Blu-ray
  • Social-Media™ files for the Internet, PC and Mac
  • Primal-Capture™ Master-Files™ -- a historical replica of your old legacy video
  • Virtually-For-EVER Master-Files™ For HDTV-- the IMAGE™ & Color Enhanced file(s) which is the foundation of ALL other video products made for you and that you will ever make.

Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™ Drives™ are also loaded with...

  • On-Board Archive Tutorial™ -- Shows how to use your Virtually-For-EVER™ Library™
  • On-Board Archive Media-Player™ -- to test your Virtual-IMAGE™ videos -- on both Mac & PC
  • On-Board 1000 Years Strategic Video Archive Plan™

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We seek THE BEST clients; Not the richest!

  • We must turn away many clients each year
  • We have a waiting list - and have -- for the last 20 years!
  • We certainly are NOT the "Cheapest"; however,
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    • As "One of The Best"
    • If not "THE Best"
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<b>16mm film</b> <b>8mm film</b><b>Super 8mm</b>film Film Transfer Comparisons (PICTURE)

16mm Film, 8mm Film & Super 8 Film PRIMER

For Beginners...

A little Primer on 16mm film, Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) and Super 8mm movie film.

  • Identify Standard 8mm movie film or 16mm movie film you have, and
  • Basic "Film Transfer speeds" you NEED for your film.

The following tutorial is for people new to

  • 16mm film,

  • Standard 8mm movie film (sometimes called "Regular 8mm movie film"), and

  • Super 8mm movie film

This primer will help you both identify and date
16mm film, Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film), and Super 8mm movie films that you have -- for film transfer.


al">How to Identify, Date, and Speed-rate Your Movie film for Film Transfer: :
Picture (Above) shows examples of "small format" movie film s

16mm movie film,
Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) (also called Standard 8mm movie film ) and
Super 8mm movie movie film.

16mm was invented before Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) and Super 8mm movie films. 16mm movie film was made from "hand-milled" Silver halide -- the grains of which were very large compared to later films. Although 16mm is 4 times the size of Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) and Super 8mm movie film, the resolution of the film is comparable to that of Super 8mm movie film and some later dating Also, 16mm movie film was shot and run at 16fps in the early 1900's. Modern versions of 16mm movie film are run at 24 fps -- which actually makes 16mm movie film a "hybrid" format -- with one foot in the "small format film industry" and one foot in the "large format film industry".

It is because of this dual role of 16mm movie film, that '8mm Film Transfer Mills™ can "get away with" talking about film and equipment in broad terms and then implying that what is "good" for large format films -- like captures with "irregular pull-down patterns" -- is likewise, "good" for "small format films". In truth the converse ONLY is true, that what is "good" for "small format films" -- like synchronizations at "15fps" -- is also "good" for "large format films" -- but NOT VISA VERSA.

Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) and 16mm movie film

Rough Dating of Movie film :
16mm movie film - silent -- 1923 to Early 1960's.
16mm movie film - sound - 1935 to present.
Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film), Standard 8mm movie film -- Late 1932 thru 1990s.
Super 8mm movie film -- Introduced in 1965 to present.

Correct Film Transfer Speeds:
Silent 16mm film - silent -15 fps or 16 fps (with exceptions) with 40 frames per foot
Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) film - silent -15 fps or 16 fps. with 80 frames per foot

NOTE: 8mm Film Transfer Mills™ transfer this at 20 fps
Introducing a 20% "real-time" distortion - 12 minutes lost per hour.

Super 8mm movie film

Super 8mm movie film was" Shot" usually 18 fps; commercially 24 fps and has 72 frames per foot
Super 8mm movie Movie cameras and projectors had "variable speeds".

Correct Film Transfer Speeds:
Super 8mm movie film" Silent", 18 fps
Super 8mm movie film" Sound", 18 fps OR 24 fps.
NOTE: 8mm Film Transfer Mills™ transfer this at 20 fps
Introducing a 10% "real-time" distortion - 6 minutes lost per hour.

Super 8 Film Sound for Film Transfer (Click to Refresh Pictures) NOTE: Super 8 Sound film has "magnetic" Sound tracks glued on both edges of the "under-side" of the film which looks like 2 copper colored stripes (see above).

<b>16mm film</b> Optical Sound track for Film Transfer (Click to Refresh Pictures) Commercial film : Super 8mm movie Sound and 16mm Sound: Usually "optical" Sound tracks. (Black squiggly tracks: above)

Both 16mm movie film and Super 8mm movie movie COMMERCIAL films, were" Shot and run" at 24 fps - ONLY.
Most domestic clients, with rare exceptions, do NOT have "commercial films" with "optical sound tracks".

<b>16mm film</b> <b>8mm film</b><b>Super 8mm</b>film for Film Transfer (Click to Refresh Pictures)
Holes Along the Edge of the film (see picture above) :
The size of the holes are the same for both 16mm movie film and Standard 8mm movie film.
Some 16mm has only one set of holes -- like Regular 8 film.
Spacing of the holes in 16mm movie film is different than Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) -- also called Standard 8 film.

Super 8mm movie movie film has smaller holes - less than half the size of Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) movie film. Spacing is different.
Correct Film Transfer is very different for each.

Reels or Spools (see Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) pictures below):

Hole in Center of Reel or Spool:
Early 16mm and Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film): the hole in a spool was
1) the size of a number 2 pencil -- on one side of the spool -- and 2) square and roughly the same size -- on the other side of the spool.

Later, 16mm spools standardized with a square hole.
Later, Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) spools standardized with a round hole -- with a notch on one side of the reel or both.

Super 8mm movie spool: The hole in the spool was the size of your "pinky finger" and round on both sides of the spool.

8mm Film Boxes of "double 8" for <b>8mm film</b> Transfer (Click to Refresh Pictures)

Standard 8mm movie film , 95 percent of the time, is on a grey plastic, 3 inch spool and came in a Yellow cardboard box -- for mailing.

Double 8 movie film came in a yellow box roughly 1 inch thick.
Single 8 also called Standard 8 came in a yellow box roughly 1/2 inch thick.

Both types of films -- collectively -- are called Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) or Standard 8mm movie film and, before 1965, usually fond on little grey plastic reels -- with excepts around 1942 (see history below), and 1965 (more follows)..

Super 8 movie film (introduced in 1965) was sold and processed on 50 foot spools -- which were usually a blue cover with a white plastic spool.. Rarely covers were also red, yellow, green, black, and white.

About that same time (1965), Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) began to appear spooled onto white plastic reels with blue covers, too.. The hole in those spools was the size of a number 2 pencil or standard pen. Most easily confused with Super 8mm movie film.

ATTENTION: : It is very common for Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) to be on a Super 8mm movie spool and Super 8mm movie film, on a Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) spool -- by mistake of family members. When in doubt , look at the film itself and the size of the holes in the film -- not the spool.

HISTORICAL NOTE - TO HELP DATE AND IDENTIFY: Earliest Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) or Standard 8 film was called Double 8, because it was sold as 25 feet of 16mm movie film. It was called a "25 foot Double 8".

The tell-tell oversized, yellow box contained a tiny back metal canister -- sealed with black cotton tape -- to protect the brown, unexposed 16mm movie film inside.

The 16mm movie film was "double exposed" -- in 2 passes. Each pass -- exposing the entire length of the 16mm wide film -- but only exposed an Standard 8mm movie film wide strip along the length of the16mm movie film.

The cameraman would shoot one pass and then flip the 16mm movie film in the camera -- to shoot the second pass. This accounts for the "flashes of yellow light" half-way through early Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film)s.

At the time of film processing, the 16mm movie film was developed and then split down the center -- thus creating 2 strips of Standard 8mm movie film. . The two ends of the (now Standard 8mm movie ) film was glued together in the center and spooled onto a 50 foot spool of Standard 8mm movie film (shown below). This is nice to know if you need to date reels of film.

(Click to Refresh Pictures)

All 3 reels above are Double 8mm 25 foot movie film -- which is actually 2 strips of 25 foot film -- glued together (doubled) to make a 50 foot spool.

Proof of this is the splice located exactly dead center of the length of movie film.

DATING INFORMATION:Double 8mm & Standard 8mm Movie films

  1. (left top) Double 8mm 25 foot movie film reel -- aluminum (shown) or black metal reel (not shown) (pre-WWII), or

  2. (center bottom) Double 8mm 25 foot movie film reel a cardboard reel (WWII), or

  3. (right top) Double 8mm 25 foot movie film OR Standard 8mm movie film reel -- a grey plastic reel (post-WWII)

    In the1950s Kodok started spooling a solid 50 foot strip of film onto the same plastic grey reels (above right); however, the little yellow box (not shown) was only half the width of the yellow Double 8mm box (above).

Double 8mm 25 foot movie film was shipped back to owner in the same oversize yellow box -- now twice the length and half the width of the original 25 foot reel of 16mm movie film.

WARNING:Because the box "looks too big for the reel", many people wrongly assume the reel is in the "wrong box". This is one of the major reasons reels become disassociated from the correct box.

NOTE: Many times the cameraman would forget that the film had already been exposed and flipped -- and would expose the same edge twice. Thus "double exposures" were created on Double 8 film.

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  • The 8mm Film Transfer Mills™
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The " tech note" below is on film transfer semantics on 16mm film, Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film), and Super 8mm movie film. Most readers have some "flavor" of Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) or Super 8mm movie film. Therefore, I do not specifically state the words "16mm movie film " -- every time I mention Super 8mm movie film or Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) -- when talking about film transfers to DVD or Master files. Instead, I just talk about Standard 8mm film, and Super 8mm movie film to film transfers -- with the ASSUMPTION THAT ALL PRINCIPLES APPLY TO 16mm movie film AS WELL.

The same applies to visual and non-visual illustrations -- using Standard 8mm movie film or Super 8mm movie film or film transfer. Illustrations about Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) ALSO APPLIES to SILENT 16mm movie film -- as Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) -- (see photos above) in may cases IS SILENT 16mm movie film--" SPLIT IN HALF -- DOWN THE CENTER" literally.

A 16mm movie film transfer can be much more complex than a Standard 8mm movie film or Super 8mm movie film transfer -- because 16mm movie film was used domestically, commercially -- as 16mm silent movie film and 16mm sound movie film -- and shot at 1 of 3 speeds -- even early century 1900s. Also 16mm movie film is OLDER and usually is in some stage of "vinegar syndrome". After you get a telecine film transfer quote, you are advised to call me about your 16mm movie film for a free 16mm movie film transfer "evaluation and consult".

I use Standard 8mm movie film (Regular 8mm movie film) or Super 8mm movie terms -- for example:

Super 8mm movie film to DVD,
Super 8mm movie film transfer,
Standard 8mm movie film to H.264,
Super 8mm movie film transfer,
Single Standard 8mm movie film to HDTV Blu-ray,
Standard 8mm movie film to video,
Double Standard 8mm movie film to video,
Standard 8mm movie film to video,
Standard 8mm movie film movie to video,
Standard 8mm movie film telecine,
Standard 8mm movie telecine film transfer,
Standard 8mm movie film telecine transfer,
Ektasound Standard 8mm movie film to DVD,
Ektachrome Standard 8mm movie film to DVD,
Kodachrome Standard 8mm movie film to DVD.
film to video,
film to Flash Drive,
film to Hard Drive,
film to Blu-ray, etc

ALL these film transfer phrases refer to some "film to video film transfer process" of converting film to digital video unless otherwise stated specifically..

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    Capturing ALL the "Resolution" from your 8mm 16mm movie film -- IS THE MOST MAJOR CONCERN -- of everyone -- and understood by no one -- EVEN MOST PROFESSIONALS! Resolution in Movie Film works IN OPPOSITION TO Resolution in Digital VIDEO -- one working by "shadow" the other working by "light". Miss-matching a video format to a movie film WILL DESTROY RESOLUTION! This link discloses a FUNDEMENTAL TRADE SECRET -- and will save you from "trashing" both your money and your movie film!

  • Virtual-Media™ and Virtually-For-EVER™ Concepts
    DVD discs, USB Drives, Flash Drives, Memory Cards, and Solid State Drives are all technologies of "last decade" -- if not last century.


In Layman's Terms, you will learn...

      • The concept of Virtually-For-EVER
      • The difference between Film-Transfer and Film Virtualization™
      • The difference between a "Digital file" and a "Virtual-file"
        (Why all digital files are NOT "virtual".)
      • Introduces MODERN "Virtual Media" constructs like
        • Disc-FREE™ Virtual-DVD™,
        • Solid-State-DVD™,
        • Virtual-Cloud-DVD™,
        • Disc-FREE™ Virtual-Blu-ray™
        • Virtual-Master-File™,
        • Virtual-Library™
        • and more Virtual-Products

  • Virtual Archiving A Film Transfer to DVD is NOT enough! In the absence of your Standard 8mm movie film (which is "going bad"), you MUST have a near-equivalent Virtually-For-EVER Master-File™ -- to make ALL the NEW AGE Virtual Products your family NEEDS NOW and For-EVER™

  • Film Transfer and Film Virtualization™ Equipment used for a "film transfer" and equipment used for a "Film Virtualization™" are NOT the same. Film Virtualization™ can NOT be accomplished on a "do-it-all-in-one-pass" Telecine Machine. Film Virtualization™ is a multi-pass process -- if the Virtual-State™ Products are "worth keeping alive and perpetuating" -- for a thousand years or more! What "transfer mills" do is not remotely "in the same league".

  • Vinegar Syndrome and Mold

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